Does Weight Matter?

One of the things I go back and forth with is the question of how much weight matters.  It's a funny thing, because it's the most objectifiable thing on a bike.  Impressions of geometry and handling will vary from person to person, stiffness can be quantified but more is not always preferred for every rider or circumstance, aerodynamics are debated and argued in various ways, aesthetics are a whole other kettle of fish, but put a bike on a scale and there's only one number that's going to come up.  All else being equal, the lower that number, the better. 

In a world where your like or dislike of a certain golf club is as related to its sound as to its performance, and where cyclists may not have the breadth or depth of experience with different bikes to be able to really pin down their likes and dislikes in the way different bikes handle, it's not unusual that people would place a lot of importance on something that is as readily quantified as weight.

On one hand, I think that perhaps the way that weight's effects are calculated to a racing cyclist understate its importance.  Sites like Analytic Cycling allow you to plug in weights versus coefficients of drag so that you can see that, in general, aero does indeed trump weight.  But aero benefits are measured in a static wind tunnel, and as you can see if you look at charts and graphs from various wheel companies, even the wind tunnel benefits are hard to nail down.  Put them on the open road and it gets fuzzy indeed.  You'd have to have your head buried pretty far in the sand to deny that there are valuable benefits available from aero equipment, but to quantify it is rather difficult.  Part of this comes from manufacturer claims - the chuckles about the new aero cranks that save you 20" over a full Ironman course (winning Ironman bike splits are roughly 4.5 hours, so this represents a .1% improvement) were pretty loud.  So it's hard to know just how much benefit you are getting from aero equipment.  You know you're getting some. 

On the other hand, the static way in which weight is measured probably understates its practical effect just as the wind tunnel likely overstates practical benefits of aero gear.  Most calculations talk about static grade, constant speeds, etc.  That doesn't line up at all with most of the climbing experience I've had - grades constantly change, attacks come and go, etc.  Even on flat courses, you are constantly changing speeds.  I'm guessing that the difference between say a 1500 gram set of wheels and one a quarter of a pound heavier will leave you with more than .1% extra in the tank at the end of the race. 

The question is of course one of degree.  People chase weight to pretty crazy degrees.  On this boat I used to sail on, we had a saying - "grains of sand."  What this meant was that if you added up enough tiny little grains of sand, you'd eventually wind up with the Sahara desert, so we were always looking for the small gains.  No one carried any superfluous stuff when we raced.  But I recently read a comment somewhere that called 10 grams of difference between two sets of wheels a notable difference.  In my mind, I struggle to call a .7% difference in weight between two sets of wheels notable.  Wheels aren't grains of sand - they're often or even usually the heaviest component on the bike.  This apart from the fact that a 10 gram difference is WELL within the weight variance tolerance of any wheels. 

Bikes used in road races aren't allowed to weigh less than 14.8 pounds.  They often do, since when was the last time an official weighed a bike at a race, right?  I know a lot of people get their bikes down to like 13 pounds, and there are multiple websites devoted to the practice of getting your bike down to the lowest weight possible. 

Weight is something that we always look at every time we evaluate something, and we recently chose not to go ahead with some new rims because we thought their weight penalty outweighed the benefits they brought.  Soon enough I am sure that we'll have the need to evaluate weight versus other factors in other products, and despite weight's objective measurement, we will have to evaluate it subjectively in the mix of other factors. 

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11 comments

Well, I'm not sure I would have put it exactly like that but there is validity in there (the obvious Lance questions and whether guys with bibs a size larger than their ideal are "allowed" to ride nice stuff aside). But as I get myself ready for Green Mountain Stage Race – my bike has ounces to lose, while I could drop 10 pounds and look like a cadaver but I'd go uphill like a fast cadaver. Damn you, beer. If you've ridden one of our frames you know they're far beyond the range of acceptable and, well, a lot of people have TRIED to break them…

Dave

When we start looking at 10 gram increments, and are willing to pay, say, $100 for each 10 gram dropped, we may be disregarding more important elements—having a set of wheels that doesn't flex, a drivetrain that is smooth and unlikely to break mid-race, and tires that resist flats (just ask Tony Martin after Saturday's prologue). Having said that, I once borrowed a pair of 900g wheels—500g lighter than my usual wheel—and the sensations were insanely amazing.

Calvini

Don't be jealous of my 130 pounds, my metabolism is stratospheric and i run out of energy quickly. I generally have to try and gain weight to build up to my active level in any sport I take on. The lower end of middle class means that my money goes to fueling my body rather than shaving grams. Bikes these days dream weight when compared to what i had almost 25 years ago. What matters are decent lively wheels that roll fairly well. So currently i'm on an alum frame and handbuilt alloy tubulars, 350 gram hoop on 105. There's nothing fancy in my set up so the only thing i lack in terms of improvement is saddle time. Racing equipement are for racers.

ron

I agree with Dave! Unless of course your opponent just won by 1 sec. Then the 50 grams "might" have made a difference . I have a set of rules when it comes to buying lighter bike parts…if it will increase your comfort go buy it. If your within 20 seconds of the race winner- buy it. Otherwise just train on your existing gear.

Mario

Wayne -Can you link to some of the studies please? I wasn't aware that any formal comparisons like that had been made. My question in general isn't "is an 'x amount lighter bike/wheels/handlebar/whatever' going to turn a weekend warrior into a world beater", but more "what's the threshold that matters?" If two wheel sets are 50 grams apart is it functional to think of them as being "about the same weight" or are they meaningfully differentiated by weight? ThanksDave

Dave

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